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Published: 2 years ago
I had to get this off my chest regarding my business experience with herbalife, I want to apologize of the excessive use of the word "you know" I'll get better in my speeches lol.

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I started with Herbalife and quite within a month for almost all the reasons you said here, this fake life they be preaching is just not for me 😭 thank you so much for this video cuz a lot of time I fell like I had to go back to Herbalife thank god I didn’t

2 weeks ago

Great content!!

3 weeks ago

They are not friendly, nor are they your friends. Founder Mark Hughes adopted a Synanon attitude to Herbalife where people are shamed for underperforming. Synanon was originally used as a drug rehab clinic became a cult. The Rap sessions had become screaming sessions sometimes the attacks were based on lies.

Hughes ended up dying in 2000 from an overdose because his health deteriorated from pneumonia. It wasn't Herbalife products he took neither. He was stressed out from the investigation into his business.

2 months ago

Thank you for sharing I had a similar experience too with the business.

3 months ago

Hi June! Thanks for sharing your experience with Herbalife. I’ve been invited to attend these training seminars. I was turned off because they charged for this training. Did they also charge for the weekly training meetings as well?

4 months ago

Oh wow. I didn't know they charged for the training.

4 months ago

Still u dont talk creams of face herbal life blc my face dont have acne then i use herbal life cream then my face acne i dont know what cause that sorry my english not good

4 months ago

Not every network marketing company is bad. Perhaps Herbal Life company was not right for you. Each NM company has a different business model with a different platform. Do your homework first before signing up. Sorry you were disappointed. "If at first you don't succeed, try try again." There are some very successful NM companies that exercise high integrity and responsibility to help their distributors become successful.
Lesson 1... NEVER " buy in" to a company, esp if they "front load" you with products. That's already a giant red flag!
Wishing you success in all your endeavors.

5 months ago

Name a reputable MLM. And back it up with facts.

2 months ago

another loser that didnt make it, and is blaming to herbalife, mlm , the suprviser, the product, the coworkers , the pyramid, the egyptians etc etc . No metter what kind of bussines you do, you are gonna end up the same way

5 months ago

Thank you for your opinionated comment, may God bless you and keep you.

5 months ago

Everyone’s experience is different honey

5 months ago

It took you too long to find that out. I use the products I refuse to sell it. Why because I don't know alot of people who would buy. As for health reasons I've lost weight and I am doing fine. My close friend lost 27 lbs and she is now not diabetic and her doctor said she Is doing great. Like any other product this may not be for everyone. My sponsor tried it but nah I'm stubborn. And I'm smart. Never let anyone convince me of anything. I want that kid in school who was easily influenced. So I try the product if u want to try it then do so. Not everyone bad exp is your exp. As for health reasons before you start a product get yourself checked. Because you may have an underlying issue that is already there. Be smart. Do ur own research. Try it out if it's for you then it's for you

5 months ago

Thanks for telling me this ,very informative

5 months ago

thanks for replying,thats OK , that's OK,thanks for exposure

6 months ago

Damn I’m glad my upline isn’t like that..

6 months ago

people losing there homes?????

6 months ago

they should burn in hell

6 months ago

it's a scam -lost 10k

6 months ago

Wow brother. I'm sorry to hear that.

6 months ago

mark richardson I believe you, total scam.

6 months ago

What actually works as food replacement at a good price

7 months ago

BRAY- BRAY Well there's really no concrete product that can ever replace good old fashion real food, our bodies are not designed for artificial or chemical substances, but if you're going to utilize it, I suggest to go clean plant based meal replacement, I did a video review on two products that worked for me, try garden of life meal replacement or sun warrior blend. Hope that helped.

7 months ago

I really enjoy your videos. Have you looked into Shakeology? Do you know anything about it?

7 months ago

Thank u for sharing. Im experiencing things with Herbalife right now that upset me too. I realized these "Wellness coaches" arn't looking out for my health just out to make the money and it was hurtful to start working out after almost 10 yrs. Do the 3 day trial for 25 dollars show me all the support just to tell me " you want to continue to get our support and be a part of our community than you have to buy these products" and I should have known that support doesn't come for free. I felt so naive and stupid that after I was pressed to order my first package I immediately called first thing Monday for a refund. Just to be told it could take up to 40 weeks! 😣
In the end I realized I didn't need them I had the support of my family, family, and people from my church, and the support of God! The real support!

9 months ago

Linee M thats horrible that they did that to you. I've known Herbalife since i was 11years old i am 34 now and yes its horrible what i see happening all these cliques like if we were in high school. I am money hungry because i am financially stable and dont own a single credit card. I live herbalife and i want to help people truly want to help them. I told a client even if you bought a bar of soap from me i will still coach you lol because its not only about money its about building a community. Too much competition going on and many will actually block you if you dont buy a certain amount and thats not okay!! Not okay. Its weird that they will refund you in 40 weeks I've never heard of that. It only take 1 week unless you got a reaction to the products then the most it takes is 2 weeks but 40 weeks thats waaaaay to long. Your saying it will take 9 to 10 months for a refund😬 I am going to call today to ask because I've never heard any company in the world that takes that long to refund a person. Good luck girly I hope you reach your goals i really do and if you need anything your welcome to also message me for what ever you need okay.

9 months ago

Linee M really sucks you got a bad up line. I'm in the same position, but I'm not gonna quit only cause I sign up with people only going for the money. I follow ppl at herbalife that are willing to help and teach. I'm so fired up to lose my weight train my self on healthy eating and help others do the same. I seen ppl doing so good with herbalife with health and money wise cause they do help ppl they aren't there for the money. That's what I love and that's what I Wana do. If you still need help Holla at me, doesn't matter if it's about herbalife or not.

9 months ago

Great video brother. Thank you for the insight. I never felt the need to use Herbalife products. The reason is I lost 40 lbs ten years ago. I've been able to keep the weight off by exercising, eating better, drinking water and watching my portions.

9 months ago

Great video brother. Thank you for the insight.

9 months ago

Herbalife is a damn scam. Everyone that uses it is brainwashed by the company. They swear this product is the best and only product out there. All these so called “coaches” no nothing about training or eating. It doesn’t piss me off how people get there money you know? It just makes me mad when people give off false information...

10 months ago

Thank you for the insight. I have been asked to be become a Herbalife distributor in the past. I've always declined.

9 months ago

You forgot to mention the pressure they put on you to fly out to their convention, which of course, you have to pay for. These people should be shot.

10 months ago

Oh man. That means some of those distributors are lying. On Facebook I see a lot of distributors bragging about flying out to those conventions. They may like sound like Herbalife pays for those trips. Thank you for the insight.

9 months ago

Of course. They're not going to fly all those people out. It's all about wringing as much money out of you as they can.

9 months ago

Oh wow. I didn't know you had to pay for the trip.

9 months ago

i do believe about the whole thyroid and liver thing. I used it once and my anxiety got so bad. I couldn't keep anything down for months. after that i quit using it and don't recommend it to anyone.

1 year ago

This is the second video of yours that I watched. I like your videos a lot. Great content. I'm sure I will get hate for my comment on your other video but you are 100% right.

1 year ago

I'm only going to comment on your remark about GNC. I've heard from a regional manager's niece that I know that they only require labels of products they sell to be 30% true. In other words, if a product says 10 grams of protein per serving, it can have as little as 3 grams for them to be ok with selling it. YMMV I'm just mentioning it so that you can look into it further.

11 months ago

I basically in my other comment said that you can get the same thing even healthier, cheape, and a bigger quantity at GNC. I did not want to have two separate comments on two different videos lol. My husband did the research and told me that herbalife isn't really healthy and the whey protein is much healthier. I went to a fitcamp and they gave me my free shake and I really enjoyed the energy of everyone and it was great. Then the fitcamp ended and the asked if I wanted to join and I said yes. But, they did not tell me that it was going to cost of 80.00! So, I told them I was leaving and I never went back. They have tried to get me to join for almost a year. I have heard all bad things from friends and family. I am going to trust my family over someone who is just trying to make money. I have lost over 30 pounds just by eating healthy with NO Herbalife. I learned in my first month of lifting that you can lose weight from eating properly most of the time and working out properly. I hate how they say, "you can only lose weight on their product and that you have to eat healthy every single day." You do not have to eat healthy everyday. Once a week you can have a cheat meal or even cheat day and not feel bad about it. They make people feel like shit. When that is not true. All they care about is making money and they drop you once they get your money. In fact, the lady that tried to sell me that 80.00 package quit and once she saw me losing all my weight she messaged me and asked how I did it. Which is super funny to me. Anyways, sorry for my long rant. You are not alone and a lot of others have become caught up in their lies too. This is why I decided against it.

1 year ago

Leah Haynes Thank you very much for the love and support of my videos, I have gotten a lot of hate over my videos and that's okay, everyone's entitled to their own opinions, all I try to do is raise awareness of companies like herbalife and others that takes advantage of people who don't know any better and does not conduct accurate research of what they put in their bodies, our bodies are very complex and inn itellengentlly designed to consume REAL food, not chemicals, and consuming chemically processed foods over time can have deteremental effects on the body.

1 year ago

good to hear your health is getting better

1 year ago

All bullshit.... i Don't understnd why people do this

1 year ago

I have been in the military for 15 years and during my time I was diagnosed with elevated thyroid and stage 3 fatty liver disease I recently started taking Herbalife a year ago and had lab results done. before I say what I'm about to say I wanted to clarify that Herbalife is not proven to diagnose, cure or prevent any disease. but because I have lost weight with Herbalife my lab results became normal losing the weight helped me with my thyroid and liver. and Herbalife help me lose weight so what you're saying, the opposite happened to me otherwise if Herbalife effects your liver and thyroid then mine would have definitely been destroyed since I was suffering from it many years before Herbalife. so what you're saying is false

1 year ago

Losing weight is losing weight. HL has no special answer if you restricted your caloric intake you lose weight. Thats just simple maths. You can lose weight eating donuts!!
Just because your lab results came back ok is proof of nothing. Some people smoke all their life and don't get cancer. You are not that naive surely.

1 year ago

lol.....and you think HL shakes twice a day are the answer. The body needs real, quality wholefoods not shit from a lab. The body is not a chemistry set. Go read the ingredients on the cann if you want to know what shit is. Now get back under your rock. You HL mugs are all the same.............you know nothing other than what your salesmen tells you!!!! I have seen what you idiots think a plate should look like once a day!!
The UK is in a different league that the USA.

1 year ago

Where ever GMO runs food's quality is half good, industries put so much shit inside from chemicals and other crap. Stop living under the rock.

1 year ago

You never heard of lean protein, fresh veg, fruit, beans, pulses????..........flaxseed... ???

1 year ago

SCD4 West has quality food? Since when?

1 year ago

i feel you man, thanks fir sharing

1 year ago

did the doctor have you on any medicines or you just switched over to real food?

2 years ago

Iesha Wright I just changed my diet that's all.

2 years ago

Hey Hun.. I definitely respect your decision. There are many businesses not just "pyramid schemes" that run business unethically, you know. Sometimes it is about finding the right type of individuals to join your business/team and it takes patience to find those individuals. Just from my experience with Herbalife so far.. It has completely changed my life and I love being a distributor and truly making a difference in people's lives. Right now I am learning to take my time. And what I mean by that is really making sure that my clients are getting the results they are looking for even if they don't buy the products every month. I want them to know I'm still here. This type of attitude is what sets the good from the bad. I have experienced and heard of coaches giving out their discount as well and unfortunately that is what is tearing apart Herbalife's true mission! Glad to hear you are doing better and I hope you can enjoy the rest of your new year :)

2 years ago

Hi. I was just wondering, did you stop taking Herbalife? If you did, were you able to keep the weight off?

2 years ago

i had some lab works done last month and ive been taking herbalife for like 4 years. and now they havw done lab works and my liver is damage they dont know if its from the outside and the inside..

2 years ago

i have watch ur video.

2 years ago

Martha Estrda watch my video titled why I stopped selling and using herbalife part one I explain what had happened to me.

2 years ago

i had some lab works done last month and ive been taking herbalife for like 4 years. and now they havw done lab works and my liver is damage they dont know if its from the outside and the inside..

2 years ago

Hi JuneValentino. I've been using Herbalife 4 years already and I feel great. I do my exams every year and all come out with excellent results. I have a grandson who is 4 years old and his mother "my sponsor" has been using the products for the last 5 years which means that before, during and after her pregnancy she's been using the products and btw my grandson takes his shake everyday. Not only that my sponsor and I have been doing the business 4 years and the last 3 all of our incomes are from doing the business correctly and helping others as well. I'm not writing to argue with you but, just curious why it works great for us and our health is good and not for others?? Oh and I don't live in a state where you have more opportunities..

2 years ago

Hey again JuneValentino29, I replied to your first video too. I know you are upset with this experience, and I apologize for that. I have an MLM that I simply love and it's NOTHING like Herbalife, and Thank you for having the courage to post these videos. Contact me if you would like to talk, i'm sure we would be instant friends, you have a huge heart that has been broken by this Scheme!

2 years ago

Okay I really like your information. I saw your part 1 about the thyroid and now it's better. Let me say this. YOU DON'T NEED COLONICS. Please don't take my word for it just research because they are very dangerous and they don't like to tell you that. If you're doing blended smoothies that has the fiber or pulp in the drink, then that will scrub your colon naturally, but if you're doing juicing or juice fasting not only does that spike the blood sugar (because you get the nutrients too fast), but you also have to do enemas and stuff because there is no fiber to scrub your insides clean. I don't dehydrate my food either because that dehydrates the body and causes blockages and constipation. Now you can have dry or dehydrated foods but if you are relying on home enemas or worse "professional colonics" then maybe you're eating too much of that. Colonics are dangerous and no one needs to do them. They don't even work.

2 years ago

I wish your experience with herbalife could have been better...But the MLM business is no different than your modern business...You have ppl that will only look out for themselves rather a co-worker that will throw you under the bus or take credit for work you did, to get ahead...Most ppl in the business need mentoring, in this business, because like you said, people are losing friends and families, because they are trying to make money...rather than researching than company and learning the business, but learning how to be themselves. and it is not a pyramid scheme, because all businesses overall objective is to make money....and you said why it is not a pyramid scheme....because herbalife and all those companies, have products to sell. and I had a guy talk to me yesterday about herbalife and I respect he was honest. And only way friends and families don't claim you is you do make it your life, and I was guilty of that in wake up now until I got a mentor. and he taught me be yourself...it's your business...ppl know you so be you. But if ppl are doing things in herbalife sorry you had to go that, and I have heard stories of bad uplines from all companies.

2 years ago

I agree! I knew within two weks that even just spending a coule of hundred pounds (400), I would need to sell thousonds (2000+) just to recoupthe expense. here would be no profit in it and the only person making a profit would be your sponsor/supervisor from our purchase/sale. They never bother to tell you tht during the first three month they can sell it to you at a further 25% discount by waiving their 25% (50% in total), so you can make a profit.

 I found my sponsor lying about her lifestyle and house ( she rented a house share) telling people she ot a house moving from a bedit because of herbalife. She lies about her age, and she spammed up my FB feed with herbalife, as they want your contacts to come to them.

2 years ago

Is that paymi. She lives in a big house i dont believe is hers

7 months ago

Your upline along with a lot of other supervisors are the reason why herbalife was under investigation by the FCC and FTC and was order to pay fine of 200 million dollars for distributors constantly making false claims and unethical business practices, watch the youtube channel factsaboutherbalife and watch their video titled business not as usual at herbalife, it explains the new policies the company must follow in order to stay as a "legitimate" business, i give it a year before this company slowly collapse.

2 years ago

Also did you hear, that Ronaldo joined Herbalife? And has a product there for way more cheap than a shake? Maybe you know better than him, right?Also did you heard about Herbalife EXTRAVAGANZA? And how much point(like 5000) you have to make to go there because so much people want to go there they don't have space for everyone? That means there are atleast 20000 member of hetbalife who makes enough profit, to even go there because they like this company that much.

2 years ago

+Anele Goniwe I mean they are paid to advertise it. What does Ron saying he uses it mean?

3 months ago

+SCD4 Wat do you mean?

3 months ago

Ronaldo??..........are you a child. Do you not know how sponsorship works??

1 year ago

Well out of Europe may suck herbalife, idk how is there, but here they can't modify genetic the soia because of the law and every country modifys a little bit on it. So i can say that if you just not eat only fruits and vegetables, then you will always meet with an E what is in herbalife. The business here is good, if you are a positive person, and you want and like doing it. If not, you won't succed that's for sure.

2 years ago

Csongor Kiss This is true. American food quality is absolute shit compared to Europe

1 year ago

I was with Herbalife for a yr, even "worked" in a nutrition club for a couple of months. EVERYTHING you're saying is spot on!

2 years ago

I totally agree I have one who does this I'm done with this company

2 years ago

Just listened to your story on the business. I would like to say that MLM is a referral business. I would rather buy from someone I know than support the commercial stores out there. Then, like any other organisation, Herblaife is made up of people. Wherever there is people it does get a bit stinky. So you cannot blame Herbalife for what GREEDY PEOPLE do! I have been doing this business with a community base of friends and family. We support each other, we have amazing results, through pregnancies, weight loss, health problems & sports nutrition.
MY HORMONAL ISSUES recovered from using THE FREE FROM SHAKE made with pea protein. Not everyone reacts well to SOYA BEAN ISOLATE, understandable. But I would like to tell you that for me this business rocks! As I build my team and my customers on GOOD ETHICS! Believe it or not, their are good people out there who truly do have a passion for bringing results! LIKE ME! I work over time, any time. I am there for my team and my customers. YOU GOT TO CARE ENOUGH ABOUT THE PEOPLE as apposed TO THE MONEY DUDE! So SORRY for you if you had a bad experience with your upline.
I can understand how that can give Herbalife a bad name! BUT my experience has been an AWESOME JOURNEY! I COACH, NOT JUST SELL! I love every client ad team member! I WORK with my people. We do FUN THINGS together, we promote. AND BY NO MEANS is every MLM a PYRAMID SCHEME! Receiving rewards for what you do WHY NOT? You get paid doing a job but never paid what you worth, so I ask you WHY NOT get a reward for what you do? And why not get more when you do more? A PYRAMID SCHEME is earning money for signing people up! WE DO NOT EARN MONEY for signing people. We earn when we have helped them become a success. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DON'T GET! Its called Network marketing, YOU DO THE WORK, YOU GET PAID! Some people forget the word WORK!
I see people come in and fall hard!!! WHY? AND I AGREE WITH YOU, GREED IT IS! They do not make it in this business! BUT THAT DOES NOT DEFINE HERBALIFE! IT DEFINES THE PERSON! I know people who love this business & the products, they just shift lines. Find a sponsor who is gonna love you no matter what! Who is going to understand you and not push you. Who is going to help you do what works for you! Not every marketing tool is for everyone, WE ALL DIFFERENT! Some Clients are lied to by their coaches because of GREED! So wish I could shoot those guys down! Speaking of stealing clients etc...Its PEOPLE, IT's UNETHICAL PEOPLE! I have had this happen to my team so many times! GUESS WHAT? It disturbed us but it did not give us a reason to QUIT and bad mouth Herbalife!!!
We clearly understood that there is always bad people out there. Easily we let those people know, if they want just a discount then be my guest and go buy elsewhere. But if you want a coach and friend behind you that's gonna look after you then WE ARE HERE! So many have stayed with us. The ones who want to be coached! YOU CANNOT REMOVE GREED in some people BUT YOU CAN INSTILL AWESOME ETHICS IN OTHERS! I stood my ground, I work with passion, I LOVE HERBALIFE & I am certainly making a success out of it! You certainly do not win it all. People are attracted to people. They will stay with who they feel comfortable with and we have no control over this. Did I lose clients too? OH YEAH I DID! Did they go with another HERBALIFE member? Oh yeah they did! Did I feel bad? OH YEAH I DID! But guess what, that's life. They felt better with another person! Did I stop doing the business? DEFINITELY NOT! Because I understand life, I understand people and I accept failures AND DUST MYSELF OFF and MOVE ON, as the one's who deserve my hard work and passion is the ones I will work with!
I HAVE LEARNED TO WORK WITH THE CLIENTS WHO DESERVE IT! I HAVE LEARNED NEVER TO RECRUIT SOMEONE WHO I WILL NOT HAVE AROUND A DINNER TABLE WITH ME! So I would like to tell you.....That there some people in my church that I cannot stand. But then again I am there for GOD and my relationship with him. Do I quit the church? NO, I know why I am there!
LASTLY, my results have been so bloody awesome! My lean muscle is up, I have not had the flu in 2.5years, from someone who was always ill. My hormones are under control and females do suffer with hormonal imbalances, mine was bad. My iron levels have normalized, from previously fainting and passing out monthly. My mother of 69 has less joint pain! My partner has a better blood circulation. My buddy lost 52 kg and feels amazing. I work with my son and have a community driven fit club!
Yes we promote Herbalife BUT WE COVER SO MUCH MORE. We promote 4 pillars! EXERCISE in a community, NUTRITION Herbalife and everything we learn about good foods, EDUCATION, educate your clients (you cannot live on shakes alone), COMMUNITY SUPPORT (You cannot do it on your own, guide and support and be the best version of yourself.
DO I LIKE MONEY, yes I do, it affords me things for my family and others! AM I GREEDY? Certainly not! Do I enjoy getting paid and having vacations for the work I do? ABSOLUTELY! BUT THE BIG DREAM HERBALIFE OFFERS, IS BASED ON RESULTS BUDDY AND WORK WORK WORK AND A LOVE FOR PEOPLE! PLEASE GET IT RIGHT! YOU CANNOT LABEL A COMPANY BASED ON IDIOTS WHO SUFFER OF GREED AS A CHARACTER! Your Freedom of speech is valid, just do the world a favor though...STOP DAMAGING other's business as you had a bad experience! WAKE UP, the world has bad people and yes there are PYRAMIDS SCHEMES and MLM exists. MAYBE ITS JUST NOT FOR YOU & that is OK! Just don't live your life judging other people lives and business! Go find something positive and then do some videos about positive things, as the world surely needs that!

2 years ago

Giving an experience and viewpoint is not damaging any business. If you don't understand that then stick to selling shit in a can.

1 year ago

Yip, bad community there!

2 years ago

Thank you fur your reply, I did not just leave the business because of the people, if you watch part one of why I stopped selling and using herbalife I explain the reason why I left. this video is my experience with the business and the people in it that I associated with in my community.

2 years ago

Herbalife operates similar to Amway, the largest MLM scam on the planet. For more details, see www.StopTheAmwayToolScam.wordpress.com and www.AllMLMFacts.org

2 years ago

My kids are part hispanic. my oldest daughter came home crying from school because a kid called her black. I told her to be proud of what you are which is hispanic.

2 years ago

That's great, show them to never be ashamed of their heritage.

2 years ago

I am totally against racism and that person that called you a n****r is not ok. People are so ignorant. If that person listened to you talk they could tell your Puerto Rican not black.

2 years ago

I don't even give trolls the time of day here, they're going to say what they want to say anyways, I just wish them well and keep it moving, all they want to do is cause trouble.

2 years ago

It's funny because you said you went to a seminar in Albuquerque. I just moved from there in September.

2 years ago

Yeah I did lol, I went to my very first seminar there in 2011.

2 years ago

lol ya that's what I meant

2 years ago

😊😉

2 years ago

I was on Herbalife for about 6 months and I lost 50 pounds.. I had no side affects..

2 years ago

That you know of...lol good luck

7 months ago

"Effects"

2 years ago