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Published: 3 years ago
About the S-VIDEO port.. I say "super video" many times in the video. This term is incorrect. I've since learned, it's "separate video". So.. I know it. ;-)

EDIT July 14th 2017:

There is now an improved version of this board, which is available as of august 2017: https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/c64-reloaded-mk2.html

An alternative to this motherboard, is this new project. An FPGA based solution: http://1541ultimate.net/content/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=74

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Yes, it was a BAD idea to cut into the case, and I really regret it. I should have cut into the plug instead. Sad, but what's done is done. Moving on.

In this video, I unbox the C64 Reloaded board. I also set it up, test it and compare picture quality with a normal C64. This motherboard is conceived, produced and sold by Individual Computers (Jens Schönfeld). This is great hardware!

Links:

https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/c64-reloaded.html
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/C64_reloaded
http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51767


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There is now an improved version of this board, which is available as of august 2017: https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/c64-reloaded-mk2.html

An alternative to this motherboard, is this new project. An FPGA based solution: http://1541ultimate.net/content/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=74

1 year ago

im glad to see I have options if my original board ever dies

1 week ago

Great motherboard. Even creating C64 laptops with Super CPU upgrades sound great.

1 month ago

I am curious, C64 chips really need a heat sink?

1 month ago

Well.. Technically, no. ;) But heatsinking will prolong their life, which is the whole point of doing it.

1 month ago

What kind of chips have plastic spikes on them?

5 months ago

Are you talking about my own heatsinks? If so, it's metal, not plastic. :) If not, let me know what you are referring to?

5 months ago

don't call yourself a idiot, we all make fools of ourselves

7 months ago

Thank you. True, and it's nice of you to say! I didn't mean it in the words truest meaning, though. I know I'm not at "idiot level", but.. I don't see myself as the sharpest knife in the kitchen drawer, so to speak. ;o)

7 months ago

Dood!

8 months ago

I thought that Ultimate64 were the only mobo for a newer and modern C64. Such a nice and rich board this

9 months ago

wow sweet news. i love retrocomputing world. but i don't like prices of old hardware getting too much higher

9 months ago

Indeed. :o) But this is an old board now. There is an improved Reloaded out, named 'C64 Reloaded MK2' with dual SID support and other goodies. It's really a wonderful time for retro computing. So much is happening these days with hardware for several platforms, like C64, Amiga and Spectrum and others.

9 months ago

it would be nice if they had expanded the ram to 128 or 256mb like the ram expansions

9 months ago

Yeah, but 128-256mb..? Weee, that's a lot of RAM for the C64..! :o) Not sure there is any software that would take advantage of that much (let me know if there is, please). But hey, there is always the 1541Ultimate, that can do up to 16mb expansion. Which makes me think of the new FPGA based C64, which has it built right in: https://www.vintageisthenewold.com/fpga-base-commodore-64-ultimate-64-is-now-under-production/

9 months ago

shame on you! What You did to the chassis of this rare C64G...

10 months ago

I already addressed that incident in the description years ago. It was a stupid thing to do, and I wish I had not done it. But I'm not gonna feel shameful about it! That's a stretch, I think.

10 months ago

"Less than 100 ripple." Never heard of that unit before.
You can clean line noise pretty easily using a snap-on ferrite noise filter.

11 months ago

Not really a side effect. It's just a product of inexpensive supplies. I explained two methods where you can convert AC to DC without any ripple at all. Usually the 2nd stage of a supply will have an IC to provide pure DC. Inexpensive supplies omit stages beyond rectification and a capacitor. I'd solder in an extra capacitor just to be safe. Recommend a 47uF (microFarad) electrolytic 16V. You can use 100uF but they get bigger and more expensive. 16V is good enough, 25V or 50V is fine, but they also get bigger.

10 months ago

Sorry, your reply was in "Likely spam".. That was quite a bit of info. Thanks for the education! Admittedly, I did not understand everything. But if I understand it correctly, ripple is "simply" a side effect from converting AC to DC. Yes?

10 months ago

In terms of DC Power Supply design, the ripple effect comes from rectifying an AC signal. AC is rectified to pulses. A capacitor then tries to carry the voltage across the pulses, leaving a bias/offset of the DC voltage you intended in the design, with an AC "ripple" riding on it. The larger the capacitor, the smaller the ripple. I was joking by calling the ripple a unit of measurement. However, a ferrite noise filter will shunt most AC signals (aka line noise) as well as that ripple effect. The way ferrite cores work, a change in voltage causes inductance in the core, which is converted to eddy currents, which convert to heat.

In supply design, that ripple is also called noise.

A switching supply is an option that won't have ripple. You can also use integrated circuits (78xx for positive voltage regulation, 79xx for negative) to provide a good clean DC voltage. If you need more current than the IC provides, you can shunt a power transistor across it, tying the base and collector together with the source side of the IC, and connect the emitter to the output side (NPN example).

That 100 you mentioned is likely "100 millivolts AC". In my opinion that's fairly large but common in cheap wallwarts. You can also reduce that with another capacitor (electrolytic is good enough) directly across the +/- connectors.

According to one site I found (for the C64 supply), "The 5V DC voltage should fluctuate in a range of 4.95 to 5.10 Volt". This means 5.025VDC with an AC ripple less than 75 millivolts.

11 months ago

Nevertheless, it's a thing. ;) Not sure why it's important here, and it's rarely listed in PSU specs. I don't think it has to do with noise.

11 months ago

I think I'd have rather built an adapter cable to map the original video out to S-video and audio before I chipped away at the case. It has all the necessary pins. (Chroma, Luma, ground, and audio).

11 months ago

DOOOD!

1 year ago

s-video = separated video, not super video ;)

1 year ago

I learned that like one year ago, I just need to share the word! ;)

1 year ago

Heh, thanks, so I've been told many times. :) And you will probably not be the last to educate me on that. But your comment is not a waste - it all helps me remember. :-) EDIT: I added this to the description now. Should have done that sooner, lol.. :)

1 year ago

Hier der C64 Mini im Test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoYgq2mV8gc

1 year ago

so what does it do different from the original?

1 year ago

Sorry for the wait, I'm off the grid these days.. Well, basically it does the same as the original, but it's more future proof and with some added features. It takes less power, and the chips tend to run a bit cooler. It also has s-video out port. There is a newer and enhanced version of this board out now, which also supports dual SID. Check here for more details: https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/c64-reloaded-mk2.html Have a great weekend..! ;-)

1 year ago

"Super VHS" < "Super Video" < "Separated Video"

1 year ago

That sums it up. :-) I have learned, that you say either "s-video" or "separate-video". All else is wrong, technically. But it's still easy to slip up.. :-)

1 year ago

The Commodore 64 computer SUCKS!  Very poorly designed.  The VIC-II chip produced a screen resolution of only 320 X 240.  The over-hyped SID chip sounds horrible.  I owned both a Commodore VIC 20 and a Commodore 64 computer.  I got bored with the VIC 20 after only 2 months of use.  I was bored with the C64 by 1984.  About 99% of all C64 games suck, so, I only played the good ones like Ultima I thru V, Questron, Phantasie I thru III, and Lode Runner.  By the time I sold my Commodore 64 system in 1984, I had enough C64 game disks to fill up a 4-drawer filing cabinet.  In 1985 I bought an Atari 520ST computer system, and later that year, I bought a Commodore Amiga 1000 system.  I never looked back at the 8-bit crap.  Who in their right mind would?!   Even thou the Commodore 64 computer is the number one selling, most popular computer of all time, it is still a piece of garbage.  WTF were the engineers at Commodore smoking when they designed the Commodore 64?!  The power supply circuitry is all fucked up, using 9 volts AC to create 12 volts DC, the VIC-II chip and SID chip using both 5 volts AND 12 volts, early ram chips using 5 volts, - 5 volts, and 12 volts, ugly case design, ugly color (two-tone baby shit brown), keyboard keycaps that are way to fucking high, and the list goes on.  Were the Commodore engineers high all the damn time?!  It is clear to me that most of them had their head up their ass.  Yes, the Commodore 64 computer is garbage, and anyone still using one today is one stupid loser.

1 year ago

Sounds like the whiney 12 year olds in the 80's who grew up to be guitar cork sniffers who believe in tonewood, magic (aka toxic) paint n the mystical powers of 3 saddle bridges.

1 year ago

RetroGeek Computers what if we dont care

1 year ago

Haha..! Perhaps it's a "love to hate" thing.. :o)

1 year ago

@Casual Commodore
One thing I never understood, C64 or A1200 haters watching C64 or A1200 videos in the first place ;o))

1 year ago

Wow, sounds like you have a winning personality! Not at all a generalizing jerk, like some other people can be... Thanks for the sweet story.

1 year ago

I was a bit shocked to see that guy pick up the motherboard with his bare hands - did he discharge his static previously ?
one is supposed to touch an earthed metallic object (like a heater) or wear an anti-static bracelet - otherwise, the risk to kill a component.

1 year ago

Although there is a dual SID board meant to give a stereo sound that are supported by some COMMODORE C64 games.

1 year ago

Where do you find "plenty of SIDs?" I fried my 6581 a couple days ago. :( The new replacements I see on eBay are less functional and the originals cost as much as another C64!

1 year ago

Emmett Turner just get another C64

1 year ago

Stop the braggin', man..!! Hehe.. ;-) SSU info, questions and ordering, here: https://www.facebook.com/swinsidultimate/?fref=ts .. Yes, only via Facebook, as far as I know..

1 year ago

Casual Commodore Amazing! Thank you. Are the files available to build your own cheaply or do you have to order it? Either way, I can't seem to find files or a place to order! As for the C64 lot: I didn't even mention all the cases of loose floppies and boxes of blanks. Well over a thousand disks! Lots of books and documentation too.

1 year ago

Hoooly sh*t, that was a good deal!!!! A little jealous.. :) I should inform you, that the SSU does support mouse and paddle. Check here: https://ilesj.wordpress.com/2016/04/24/swinsid-ultimate/

1 year ago

Casual Commodore Thanks. I really want to use my Commodore Mouse for Arkanoid (or paddles) and my understanding is that I have to have an original SID. Well, I got a crazy good deal on the whole C64 lot so I guess it wouldn't kill me to shell out $42 USD for a SID. Paid $100 USD for the C64 with original S-Video cable, disk drive, two Datasettes, printer, cables, joysticks, Commodore mouse, Commodore-brand monitor with chroma/luma, and easily over $600 worth of boxed software (Maniac Mansion, SSI games, and whole lot more).

1 year ago

Well done; a nice cheap design beats that COMMODORE USA (Intel Linux brute force method) which cost like $199 USD compared $20 USD approx 10 times cheaper.

Which FPGA do you use?

Purpose we can resurrect the C64 further; thanks Germany; I am from Vancouver, BC, Canada. I achieved Technologist (Had life problems; about 1 1/2 years from BSEE).

Take Care; May the LORD Bless you.

-Alextron

1 year ago

Are these still in production?

1 year ago

But, if you haven't heard already, take a look at this brand spanking new project: http://1541ultimate.net/content/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=74

1 year ago

Sadly, no. :/

1 year ago

What TV is that? It looks like mine, except minus the speakers on the side.

1 year ago

Ah yep, cool. Looks like a nice screen. I might get one for my lab.

1 year ago

Oh, okay.. It's a Sony KD-55X8505B. Does that make sense with yours? :)

1 year ago

Excuse me, what it's about? I mean "cut into the case"? or "cut into the plug"? Is this explained in one of the links you've added here?

2 years ago

You're welcome! Save the ideas then :)

2 years ago

Wow, thanks for all the detailed info. ;) But I'm not gonna repair it. At least, not in the foreseeable future. I just don't feel it's worth the trouble. If I one day do decide to do it, I'm pretty sure I will consult your message. So, thanks for that! :)

2 years ago

Oh, yes! I've got it finally :) Thanks. Yep, C64 case is more valuable, of course. But you can use some kind of a plastic for child works. The material usually to make some kind of plastic dolls and other stuff. These are mainly of two kinds: plastifies in oven; plastifies on air (two-component maybe). Some people tells these are not though. But you can try (find some good of it on forums for craftwork) and make a "patch" for the case. It can be tried on something else to be sure.
Other idea: use a good PVA glue. Not that small bottles for paper works (it can be very watered) but usually some big or medium cans. It's pretty cheap. I've didn't found receipts how to fix with PVA. But it can be possible because this glue is pretty strong! Many people gives solutions with epoxy glue.
Here some car "tuner" guy shows how he fixed a big hole using a fiber (some Polish production) and epoxy glue. Pictures gives the idea. The main tip was "don't hesitate about the amount of glue or it will be a crap". Firstly he put glue with a brush there then he put fibers.
He tells that after finishing the surface is very strong. As I understand it's a rough composite surface :) Very cool.
https://www.drive2.ru/l/7714987/
Maybe you need (if need at all) just to make an inserted "ring" part that will be glued to the case. So it will patch the size.

2 years ago

I'm not sure I understand the question, but I'll try to answer. It's not something you should worry about, and it's not explained in any of the links. The C64 "case" is the big plastic thing that houses the electronics. The "plug" is the connecting thing at the end of a wire (the yellow plug in the video). In the video (at 16:15) I cut into the case (removed some of the case plastic) in order for the s-video plug to reach the motherboard inside. I should have cut into the yellow plug instead, since the case is more valuable than the plug. ;-) Was this answer okay?

2 years ago

The knife isn't wide enough for unboxing! Disqualified! :)

2 years ago

it is made by current day technology fast and cheap. was is cheaper than real thing?
is it work as real thing? if it was cheaper and work like real then good buy it will last decades hope fully, but if that cost more than real one then bad buy

2 years ago

I wish I could get one but there out of stock forever 😭

2 years ago

shame they couldn't mass produce these and sell at reasonable prices. I know so many people who'd buy one. For the high cost though I can't see why you wouldn't just buy an original breadbin and refurbush it.

2 years ago

Yes I know, I am a man with two silver label machines not to mention a bunch of other commodore machines.. Still they could do a t least another run or two...bet theyd sell like crazy. C64 is very popular at the moment. ;)

2 years ago

It's for the true enthusiast only.

2 years ago

Well.. When I bought the Reloaded, I already owned several real C64's. So logically speaking, it was really not a necessary purchase. But I fell in love with the Reloaded, because it was so user-friendly and flexible (LOVE those ZIF sockets) and, well.. It was just nerdy as hell! I got that "have to have it" feeling. ;)

2 years ago

I want to turn off all these bloody pop ups on everyvideo :-(

2 years ago

Alway cut away from yourself:)

2 years ago

hay can you help me? my floppydrive isnt working and i dont know why the c64 says its not present idk why :/

2 years ago

i told here that you sayed hi, she told me that i should tell you:hi! from here

2 years ago

and i found the box with all the floppies from my mum so i got a lot to play and maybe its a fun activity to play some old games with here shes not really intrested in the newer games but each of us with a joystick in the hand playing some splitscreen coop n stuff could be fun ^^

2 years ago

i sure will! the old c64 is way more intresting than my newer pc, sure i cant play crisis n shit with the c64 but who cares? i want to sit there for 6 hours type in a game from a old magazin and make so many typos that it takes 3 hours more to correct it xD. for all the new stuff i got my pc from 2014 for exploration of tec, dang good games where the designers couldnt just focus on the "damm good graphics" but really had to make a good game to get ppl intrested and a short view of the past & childhood of my mother i got the c64.

2 years ago

14 yo? Wonderful! It's nice to see someone from a newer generation showing interest in this fantastic machine. The C64 can't do real 3D or Virtual Reality or any of that "new" stuff. But man, it can deliver fantastic gameplay, and there are thousands of games! It's a unique world. Heh.. Well.. If you're serious about this machine, sign up on Lemon64. And say hi to your mom for me.. ;)

2 years ago

found* crappy phone keyboard

2 years ago

How did you make those metal things on chips?

2 years ago

Thank you.

2 years ago

you can still find complete 64s and 128s, even a an occasional Amiga in estate sales, garage sales and thrift stores, but they are getting harder and harder to find. I found a complete 128 in the box with everything, it might have been opened once, but it was clearly never used. ... that was a few years ago though ... what I didn't know is that it possible to buy a new board? I guessing it costs way more than the original whole computer, even after adjusting for inflation.

2 years ago

160euros, so yes, not exactly cheap. AFAIK, stock has been depleted for a while now. But redesigned boards will be produced, so they WILL return.

Man.. I would REALLY like a C128 in pristine condition. I would kill for one of those! (Well, not really.. Just in case FBI is reading this.. :) )

2 years ago

nice. Do they have c128 reloaded ?

2 years ago

They do not. However, an Amiga Reloaded is being worked on. ;)

2 years ago

strange tilted daughterboard with jacks

2 years ago

k

1 year ago

Oh yeah, that.. Not my proudest moment. :) That was because my own fat s-video plug was too big. I use a different cable nowadays (and a different case - C64C). Fits nicely without cutting the case. Not really sure if it lined up a tad imprecise in the breadbin case I used in this video, but it's dead-on perfect in the C64C case I use now.

2 years ago

Nevertheless, it didn't match, small piece of top plastic had been removed.

2 years ago

Because then the minijack port won't line up with the "L-H" hole in the C64 case. ;-) Here is a quote from the official page: "These two connectors are mounted on a separate circuit board, which is mounted at an angle on the C64 Reloaded. This puts the two connectors in positions where the holes of the original C64 case can be used, and drilling or milling won't be required."

2 years ago

why not to raise both sides?

2 years ago

why is the box torn open, ?

2 years ago

It came like that, so it could only have been some postal worker out there mistreating it. Happens often, unfortunately.. :/

2 years ago

I didn't know that company existed!

I have a bunch of C64s, C128s and Amigas and like you I like to remember those days.

and BTW I would have used a dremel or other tools to make the cut more precise

2 years ago

+trifidsagitarius I would have too, but I don't have such tools. Yes, it's hard to let go of the good old computing days.. :)

2 years ago

this motherboard is a nice idea, but not that nessesary as thought at the beginning. also much too expensive. i only use orig. commodore motherboards, because they do their job since 1982 and still running great. i spent all of them nice dc-dc converter (step down converter) with a n of >97%. no more heating 7805 or 7812. also i reduced the voltage of several dc-lines to save the ics also from faster aging. and i put 2 surpressor diodes to each of my 20 mainboards to save from dc issues from external and internal power supplies. and last but not least added a lot of cooling devices to each ic where it is nessesary. i also built my own power supply , also based on dc-dc step down converter (n>97%)

2 years ago

+ meiko haas. I do not agree with replacing 7805 or 7812 with dc-dc adapters which are so expensive. Power conversion efficency is not the point here and also the original voltage regulators even if they overheat they are so cheap and common to find that is better in my opinion to simply replace them when they fail.

10 months ago

+Casual Commodore 64 real retro fans should take care about the meaning "retro" and when we are going to overstep the border ... than it would be simply enough to have an c64 emulator on a pc.. hopefully that will not happen. if there is a chance to get close enough to an orig. SID, or as orig. as the orig one, than that would mean a really great milestone in history of c64. this new SID adapt to the orig. socket in the orig. pcb with 12V or 9V ... a dream :)))

2 years ago

+Sexual Forscher Yes, the old IC's.. They will probably not get any cheaper as time goes by - especially the SID. One can just hope, that people will succeed in making some replacements. But I heard it's hard/impossible to reproduce or mimic them, for some reason. The "SwinSID Ultimate" (very new) is probably the closest regarding the SID. Hopefully we'll see an attempt on the VIC-II someday (perfect image and HDMI support?). :) Yes, these replacements all take a little piece of the C64 soul, and technically it gets closer to actual emulation, but still.. It's so nerdy.. :)

2 years ago

+Casual Commodore 64 yes you re right . for me it is also important to save the orig. boards as much as possible,too. on the other hand, not the pcbs (mainboards) are the problem, the problem are the integrated circuits IC&#180;s witch are out of stock/no more availible since a long time ago. but yes, the reloaded board is a nice idea . esp. with the s-video out :-)

2 years ago

+Sexual Forscher Wow. I did not understand everything, but I got the gist, and it sounds very good. ;-) Yes, I also believe, with the right maintenance, the old boards will last many decades. But this board was just so tempting, so I had to have it. It's like my nerd-heart craved it. No, that's not a solid argument. But it's the truth.. :)

2 years ago

Did the same with my Amiga 1200, i hacked into the side of the case so that i could get to my CF card when i needed it. Thee things ar brittle much like the c64 case. I immediately regreted it as it looked a mess so i purchased some small files and tidied it up and now im not so disapointed. I would suggest just filing that crack down in an effort to tidy it up.

2 years ago

Yes thats the one, Just got the new ACA1220 from individual computers, that place is amazing.

2 years ago

+craig gilchrist Yeah, that's not a bad idea. I'm not really using that case right now, but I will put this on my to-do list. Thanks. :) What CF card did you have to access? The one that acts as an internal HD? Why? Hehe.. :-)

2 years ago

how much is this?

2 years ago

+Glen Hill Hey Glen. :) If you click on the first link in the description, you will see, that it is €159,96. Out of stock right now, though.

2 years ago

I had to put my c64 in a repro c64 c case. It's nice and it's on my channel. It's in sexy red and if I get a reloaded c64 I'm putting it in a clear repro.

2 years ago

+Commie Thor64 Good idea. The reloaded looks good in the transparent case. :)

2 years ago

that scroling thing on your screen is a ground loop. usually in the house wiring.

3 years ago

+Daniel O'Brien All right. But it only happened that one time, while recording it. So it was a bit of a mystery.

3 years ago

"Norms or standards..."? Screw that. There are no norms or standards for unboxing, except kindly not ripping a box to shreds like a madman, perhaps! :-)

But why buy a motherboard like this when there's an even smaller version of the same thing, as built right into a joystick (the C64 DTV), which you wouldn't have to install in a full-size case, and you can still hack it to connect drive ports and things to it? Maybe just so you don't have to hook the ports in, huh? So this size is an okay trade-off? But since you're installing this into a full-sized case, what are any advantages besides the new jacks (S-video was already on the old one but not in the same pin-out, and coaxial audio can easily be converted to tip/ring with a small adapter)?

3 years ago

+MaxxFordham Hey, thanks for the comment! :) I do see your point. I've never had a DTV, so don't really have any arguments for or against it. My suspicion is, that sound/picture/compatibility differs from the original C64 "somehow" - yes, I could be wrong. :) Though I have read some interesting articles on how to hack it. It seems like a cool thing to have. I never compared this Reloaded board with the DTV, but I do have a few arguments.. :) With this board everything is EASY (keyword!) and convenient. I like the option the easily be able to switch out any chips, like 6581/8580 SID or switch between PAL/NTSC. This board allows for that with the excellent ZIF sockets. And I NEED the expansion port for my 1541U-II. I would imagine, that adding such a port to the DTV would be QUITE a project (if at all possible). Not that I'm afraid of a soldering iron, but it can be too much.. ;) And I really like the original C64 case(s). Even if I had a hacked DTV, I'm pretty sure I would put it in a C64 case. ;) Yes, I'm aware of the s-video (ish..) signal, you can get from the video port, as well as the audio. Used special cables for that. Okay, you get the picture, so I'll stop the rambling now. ;)

So.. I'm happy with this board. It satisfies my nerd heart. ;)

3 years ago

S-video is not short for super video, it's short for separate video

3 years ago

+Andy Play's [BogAco] Yes, you are right. You are not the first one to let me know that. I have now added a little note in the video at 3:44, so there will be no more confusion. ;)

3 years ago

Is there a need to add heat sinks to those chips?

3 years ago

+Casual Commodore 64 \(°^°)/

2 years ago

+apinakapinastorba Great! And Bionic Commando.. Nice choice. I should make a gameplay video of that one. :)

3 years ago

+Casual Commodore 64 Oh yeah, I did not think about the lifespan. Better make the chips last for another 30-40 years! Btw after watching this video, I had to grab the C64C from closet and set it up for a game of Bionic Commando :)

3 years ago

+apinakapinastorba That subject is somewhat controversial. But the simple answer is no. There is no NEED to do it. It will work fine without. But if you ask me, there is a big advantage in doing it! I am of the oppinion, that it will considerably prolong the chips lifespan, if they are cooled down.

3 years ago

Wow! Nice!

3 years ago

Fuck the standards :) keep on rocking mate !

3 years ago

+Jarisynth That I will. Thank you, sir. :)

3 years ago

I don't know why that rolling interference was there on the old motherboard but maybe it lacks capacitors inside it wich are nessecary to pretect the composite signal from interference.

3 years ago

+johneygd Well, it was a fluke. It was the first time I saw it, and it hasn't been there since. So that machine is fine. I have no idea wth happened that day.. But thank you for your theory! ;-)

3 years ago

i have to say, istalling a different motherboard seems like a huge waste of time and effort. my C64 display that i had as a child was the same as the one you just spent time installing, it was never murkey or had interference

3 years ago

+craig thomas That's nice for you. You don't have to worry about all this, then. ;-)

3 years ago