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Thanks for the review, I got the CZ after watching your video.
+Armen Kalomian I guess there's always the Magtech -- I keep some of those around most of the time, and that stuff is relatively easy to find locally. Though, nobody stocks a decent supply of .44 anymore. Is it a similar situation in CA? I bet that one gets more than a little attention at the range!
thegunpenguin ppu and fio didn’t cycle for me at all the slide would not come far back enough to eject the spent shell magnum researchers a list of tested brands but 1/2 of them didn’t work for me. Good luck with the DE. Very fun to shoot and the crowd it collects around you is priceless
+Armen Kalomian I'm very, very jealous! Thanks for the tip, also, that's great info. I stockpile the hottest stuff I can find, which is usually PPU, Fiocchi, and Magtech, though the PPU is the hottest, by far. Does it have any trouble feeding hollowpoints? After talking to you, don't be surprised if you see a Desert Eagle on the channel in the next 6 months! Thanks again for the info.
thegunpenguin I go t cerekoated in distressed Marine red
thegunpenguin one of the best purchases I mad! Overpaid for it because I live in CA but no regrets. Make sure you get the hottest loads for it. It won’t cycle any ammo. Magtec and PCM has been the best for me. The slide is heavy so it won’t cycle regular loads.
I own the Beretta 92 but I’ve always wanted a CZ I really appreciate your video, thank you.
I would own both, but I can never find a CZ, or the stainless one I’m looking for.
I can't decide between the Beretta 92A1 and the 92FS.. please help!!
The A1 is the better gun, and that's coming from someone with both. But, the A1 is a little more expensive.
Why is the 1913 rail a good thing?
It's nice having the ability to mount a light on the gun.
what the hell do you mean it smells like grandma?
No comparison... Cz.. All the way
That's the beauty of these two, whichever one you choose, you're getting an awesome gun. That said, clearly the Beretta is better because I like it more.
All things being equal, the Beretta 92-series are such well thought-out hand gun. So easy to shoot, maintain and field striping is a breeze. And that's worth something.
I totally agree. I've noticed that, if I put 5 common pistols in front of a brand new shooter and let he/she/they fire them all, they usually tell me that the Beretta was the easiest to use. Like you said, that is definitely worth something!
had several CZ's & have sold them all along the way, even sold my Shadow 2... was looking for another metal frame gun with decocker. was between these 2 guns.. I am 💯% certain that I would have loved either one! long story short I went with Beretta Elite LTT & man oh man I gtta tell ya the more I shoot it the more I like it. very soft shooting & shoots really flat, 10k rnds with zero issues... I truly wish I would have bought them both & the same time & just run the fool out of both of them side by side.. CZ/Beretta for the win!
+Michael Thiel piss on you!
Anyone that would sell all they're cz guns font diserves to have ever owed them in the first place
Good choice, going with the LTT. That's an awesome gun, and it's really cool to see Beretta and friends putting out close facsimiles of the frankenberettas I've seen folks putting together over the years. And I totally agree, whether you choose CZ or Beretta, you win.
Love the synth track intro. What did you use to make it?
thegunpenguin You are too kind, thank you!!
You should be pleased! I'll definitely listen to the rest, and the other tracks again. Something about listening when I edit lets me listen more intently. I really, really enjoy your work.
thegunpenguin Thanks a lot, I appreciate you checking it out! That album took the better part of a year to write and record since it was a solo effort haha. Pretty pleased how it turned out.
Great stuff! I listened to probably half of what you have posted while I edited a video. I very much like your production style, and how you mix. Very mids-focused and pleasant. I also like your really crisp and bright more traditional piano sounds, and how you put those up against really cool synth sounds. Badass!
Thanks for the link; I'll have a listen this evening. The curiosity is much appreciated, I was honored that you would ask. Yeah, the 92A1 is an incredibly pistol, and doesn't get the respect it deserves.
I went from GSG to Browning 1911 then added the 92A1 and next I think i want either a ruger mark iv or a CZ
+thegunpenguin i love it. I was won first of all by how simple it is to maintain and then I just love the feel and the accuracy. I use it on gophers and can't foresee ever getting rid of it.
You've got great taste! What do you think of the 92A1?
Although beautiful, I am of the opinion that the Beretta is morbidly obese in the hand. However, I ordered the G 10 ultra slim grips from Wilson combat and it has made a world of difference on my compact inox.
The ultra slim grips feel so good. Great choice. I'm lucky, the Beretta grip feels great to me, but I completely understand that criticism. I have that relationship with the Glock 21.
Berettas are nice guns, good fit and finish. That said, it took me about 50 rounds to realize that this is not a gun I'd like to shoot without gloves lol.The slide mounted safety is quite possibly one of the most annoying safeties I've ever used. Granted, I've only ever shot M9s on the government dime, so I haven't explored aftermarket solutions to that problem, but it's annoying enough that I'm not a huge fan. This is of course user error because I like to get all the way up there. If you don't mind a more standard, lower grip, it's an outstanding gun.
+thegunpenguin Yeah, I've seen it more with guys with large hands. I don't have super big hands, but they are a bit above average. It's a great gun, just not for everybody.
I think I've just gotten lucky with the safety. I know some folks who have hands large enough that they hit the safety every time, and that would drive me bananas. For me, it's my favorite gun, but if I had to fight with the safety, I'd hard pass on this gun.
Very cool, an all metal 9mm has been on my list. I've definitely been leaning towards beretta. I can't find much of anything for cz locally, and I dont like how small the slide is. They have always seemed more difficult to grip and rack than they should be.
+Michael Zschoche I live on the moon.
thegunpenguin that’s the beauty of this great nation. We’re all entitled to like what we want, and have a preference. Isn’t that an awesome thing? Imagine how boring our world would be if we all had the same opinion and liked all the same stuff. There would be no individuality, and we would all be the same. We may not have the same opinion, but I still respect yours.
+Michael Zschoche I don't own one, but I have handled them in shops and my buddy has a clone. I just don't like that setup. I love my scorpion though.
+Michael Zschoche The slide might not be an issue for you, but I personally have a very hard time getting a grip on it. But, ever hand is different, and one's experience is very subjective. Same goes for the trigger -- I think it's rough, but you might love it.
Never had any issues racking the CZ slide ever. Not even once. It’s a non issue. Give the CZ a shot (pun intended). I like the 92 as well. I fired the M9 a lot in the army, but the CZ calls to me.
That Beretta looks twice as big and heavy. They sure do shoot great though.
You're totally right, just looking at them, you'd never know the Beretta is the lighter of the two. I thought it was kind of strange, just how heavy the CZ is. It looks like it would be less of a brick.
Though the Beretta was the first pistol I ever purchased, way back in like 1992, my choice would be the CZ. Unfortunately, I can only get ten round magazines so capacity is not a factor in my decision.
+1view OSTB That'll be a great collection. The new PPK is very, very nice. I purchased on of the .22 Umarex PPK/S models, but it felt like a toy. My Ruger Redhawk is one of my most treasured possessions, but I don't have a Super yet. You're going to have an awesome collection! Seriously, that's an enviable list.
+thegunpenguin Alas, no it was either traded or sold off long ago. I know I'll get another one again eventually. Have owned so many different pistols throughout the years. Have settled down and I am finally ready to start a collection and would like to start off with movie guns. The newly released Walther PPK, of course a Beretta 92, a Browning Hi-Power and the S&W Model 29 to name a few. Would also like to get a Colt SAA, and a Ruger Super Redhawk.
With these two, you win no matter which you choose. Two of the greats! Do you still have your old Beretta?
you really don't know your ass from a hole in the wall, and are apparently pretty weak
was i talking to you? eat shit pussy
That seemed a bit harsh and unproductive for a comment Mr. Iraq. Not your style of video, say it and why but attacking the person...bit of a cyber bully tactic.
You suck dicks for money.
Great video! I has a Beretta 96a1 but also have the 9mm barrel and mags. Fantastic firearm. Your right on all points. Keep up the great work.
I really appreciate the kind words, and thank you for watching. It's always a pleasure to hear from someone who loves Berettas as much as I do. I wouldn't mind having a 96 myself!
Like Italian fine wine? Give me break Have a Beretta organism somewhere else Your fake initial fairness gives way to your natural cynicism
thegunpenguin do you mean dictation?
Hi John, I'd recommend working on diction, punctuation, and basic sentence construction before taking the time to critique YouTube videos. Also, please suck my balls. Thank you, and Happy New Year!
Two things that will make the CZ slide a little easier and smoother to rack: 1) Ditch the heavy duty stock recoil spring and replace it with a 13lb spring from Cajun Gun Works (the stock spring 18lb(?) is intended for +P NATO rounds, and overkill if you just plan to run standard 9mm ammo)2) Lightly grease the slide rails with the moly grease that CGW offers. After doing those two simple and cheap things, mine slides like butter.
Great tips! Thanks for watching!
Ive shot 1000s of rounds out of the M9 and never accidentaly engaged the safety while manipulating the slide. Im in a gunundrum. I want a M9A1 for nostalgia sake and expierience with the firearm. And also have few magazines for it already. I like the CZ. Feels solid grip fits my hand better. But i dont like how small the slide is or the small ejection port.
+thegunpenguin ive seen one locking block failure. Most complaints ive heard were the large grip and the difficulty for small handed people. I trusted mine to work when it needed to.
Man, that's so cool! That had to be a very interesting job. In your experience, what is the source of the perception that the M9 doesn't run well, or at all? I was talking to a friend of mine who served, and he was describing a similar experience with the pistol. His worked great, but he would hear folks drag them even when they were running. We all know the history of the ammo problems and slide breakages, none of which were Beretta's fault, but from the outside looking in, it feels like something else.
+thegunpenguin thanks for the reply. I was a navy seabee. We got the hand me downs. Our m9s have seen alot of use but shot good. Had no issues. I was convoy security so we shot more than just qualifying
Sorry for the late reply -- I totally missed this comment. I'm very, very biased, but I would recommend getting the M9A1. Truly, it's the better gun. That said, I adore my CZ, and will undoubtedly enjoy it for many years to come. But, my Berettas still have the best record of any guns I've ever owned. CZs are still very, very reliable, they feels amazing in the hand, they balance well, and are beautiful, but the triggers aren't as nice, and they are just a bit more fragile. What if bought the M9A1 and an older surplus CZ75? that's probably a ridiculous idea, but it would scratch all of the itches. Anyhow, not that you need all of these excess opinions from some jackoff on YouTube. I really appreciate you watching, and taking the time to share your history with the Beretta. Most of the folks I talk to who hate them either shot ones in the military that were ill-maintained, or they have never actually owned one. I've never served, so I can't comment on the first point, but I know that my Berettas, even my older ones, are nearly indestructible.
Are you going to get a M9A3 black now? I know that's my next purchase
+thegunpenguin what parts did you swap out in the 92a1 to make it feel like an A3?
I think so. The only reason I don't already have one, is that the A3 feels a lot like my 92A1 after I swapped some parts. But, the A3 looks so cool, and the grips feels so different that I'll absolutely end up getting one. If you get one soon, and don't mind, please let me know how you like it. I'm also a fan of flying Vs, while we're talking. Perhaps the most underrated of the Gibson shapes. Thanks for watching!
I bought my Cz today
Awesome! What do you think of it so far? I really enjoy mine.
Biased from the start, incorrect holding of both to illustrate another, The tone of your voice tells that story...
You're right, you watched a subjective comparison. Good eye! I'm sorry you didn't like it, pal.
I laughed so hard at the end. Great job!
Sorry, I completely forgot to answer the other part of your question. As far as mechanical accuracy, I have no idea, about pistol that I own. Or, I should say that none of them are inaccurate enough that it starts to be apparent. As for how shootable the guns are, which is probably what you were asking anyway, the 8000s/Storms feels great and are easy to get great hits with. On both guns, the trigger is slightly crisper than that of a stock 92-series gun, with a shorter reset out of the box. You can get a 92 to the same place with a little bit of work, but the rotating-barrel guns need no help. The lack of muzzle flip makes for double tap pairs that are very close together, and start to feel almost mechanical. The triggers and recoil impulse will make you feel like you have super-human sight-alignment abilities!
I've got a Cougar, I still haven't picked up the Storm. But, I will say this, the Cougar has a similar weight, and the recoil is hilariously minimal. Seriously, it's almost funny. This sort of thing almost always sounds silly, but it feels like it's firing .32s or .380s or something. Otherwise, the 92A1 is the softest-shooting pistol I've owned. If I had to be pointlessly subjective and try to quantify it, I'd say the 8000 has 30% less recoil. The Storm, to me, feels about on par with the 92A1, which is impressive to me considering how much lighter it is. The rotating barrel is an unexploited gem of an operating principle that needs to be further developed and refined.
+thegunpenguin I have a question. How does your Beretta Storm measure up to your 92-A1 in terms of accuracy and recoil?
Haha! Thanks! Let it never be said that I take anything too seriously.
I agree that the Beretta 92a1 is mankind's pinnacle achievement in handgun design.Personally I prefer the feel of smooth hardwood to bumpy plastic grips.
Nah, SIG P226.
Im very much on the fence between a CZ tactical and a 1911. I want a steel framed pistol, something, anything other than a polymer frame for a change. It will be a range gun either way, any thoughts?
I would go with a Beretta or CZ... 1911's are sweet & they have their place, but they can be picky & expensive!! CZ & Beretta!!!!
+Brian I'm always happy to help, if I can. And you're right about the CZ. I'm looking at having Cajun Gunworks do the trigger, and like you said, goddamn, I could've bought something way more interesting for that money. You mention Dan Wesson; that's a good route to go. They seem to make 1911s in 9 and 10mm that actually run reasonably well. Otherwise, buying a 9mm 1911 is hell. I've straight up never seen one that works correctly. But I think it's wise to avoid anything that eats .45 ammo. Every time, it feels like pissing away money, but with extra bonus recoil. 45 is about measuring one's peepee, and being Fuddly. It's fun as fuck to shoot, but hilariously pointless. Personal peeve: people who claim that .45 has less recoil than 9mm. There's this old fella I know that swears to unholy Satan that .45s have less recoil, and he always says, "it's more of a slow push, ya know?" Drives me nuts. He clearly lives on a different planet than the rest of us.
+thegunpenguin hey thanks for the detailed response dude, by the end of the video regarding the trigger and overall weight/market availability , I began to sway in one direction. I know that for a lot of money I can get a CZ DA/SA fixed up nice. But by the time I pay for that, and the gun, I could probably buy a dan wesson or be pretty close. I think I am going with a 1911. Also, I am a basic bitch (and cheap) so the 1911 i will get is going to be 9mm. Id love to prove my girth at the range by flinging 45 shells in everyones face, but well, shit is expensive. Thanks for the great and thoroughly entertaining content and response!
Hey Brian, great to hear from you! That's a tough decision to make. Which 1911 are you considering? The CZ has an utterly amazing fit, but the trigger is rough, whereas even a cheaper 1911 like the Ruger is going to have a better trigger. I guess I'd personally go with the 1911 for pure shooting pleasure, for the following reasons:1. The trigger is better.2. The round is more entertaining to shoot.3. 1911 recoil is more pleasurable.4. Often, 1911 controls are more satisfying to manipulate.Since you're only taking it to the range, my usual 1911 complaint about reliability is moot. I have a Ruger 1911 myself, and it has some trouble if I shoot more than 100 rounds through it without lubing it, and even then, I might have 1 failure. But, the gun is really fun to shoot. At the time, I bought it to see if I might want a more expensive custom 1911, and I figured I could tweak it and customize it, and generally turn it into a money pit. It turns out I love 1911s, working on them is really fun, and they are horrible money pits. Anyhow, sorry for writing you a novel. If you need any additional details about my Ruger or the CZ, I'm happy to provide them. Also worth noting: if someone told me that I had to use one of these pistols defensively, I wouldn't even consider the 1911. You have to beg them to work.
Beretta 92A1 all day. Beretta 92 guns are so tried and true,even our own military who does not believe in maintenance or even taking care of their guns still used this gun for 30+ years. CZ is a magnificent and excellent firearm in its own right. I prefer Beretta but its just a personal choice. I own the 92A1,M9A3,PX4 STORM and PX4 STORM compact. I had a CZ75 omega but grabbing the slide was difficult for my gorilla hands,thats why i sold it,other than that the gun ran flawless.
It would seem that we have very similar tastes! So far, my Berettas have been utterly indestructible, hilariously so. They just don't get the respect they deserve. The CZ is a fine gun, but it's just more delicate. Thanks for watching, and taking the time to comment!
Wow thanks a lot bud for the shout-out, awesome! As always great, detailed, fun review you got there...lols! Love both guns, but am leaning towards the CZ, imho CZs are more well built and are very sturdy, an example is its barrel with no moving parts like the Berettas locking lugs, less worry less maintenance imo, its a range gun and HD the most appropriate use for it, Berettas could be a CCW coz its a bit lighter, as well as a range and HD gun also, bottom line is for what each users purpose for it that boils down to, anyone would be a great choice, just my 2 cents. Cheers bud!
92A1 all day long. Very smooth shooting...like butter.
It's truly a fine pistol, my favorite ever.
Hey! great video man. I picked up my 45C Friday last week and I've been In love with it since. whips and chains if ya know what I mean. Shoots great and i'm just glad to finally have a 45 as well. I had to wait 72 hours for the background check as always because I live in Illinois, just 20 min outside of Chicago. They also had to ship it over the border of Indiana because that's where I bought it. But anyways thanks for making me want a Beretta 92A1 now ya damn jerk. I wanted that P2000 and you go ahead and show me that beautiful pistol. lol jk but seriously man I'm gonna buy one. I think I said this before, maybe not, I know very little about Beretta and I've been looking at them lately. Not for any particular reason, I just haven't had the thought, but now I definitely want that 92A1. I love beautiful, Go To War handguns and like you said, they're great battle proven shooters. My dad owned a Beretta years back before I was born and I wish he kept it now. My dad has always had an eye for the pretty guns. He owns the most beautiful shotguns I've ever seen and if a Beretta pistol caught my fathers eye back then, you know it's a looker. I'm sorry to ask all these questions man, but is there anything I should look for buying a 92A1? Are they all equal or are some better than others? Anything else I should keep in mind? Are they generally easy to come by in a gun shop? Thanks again for everything and keep up the great work!
No thanks required. You know I'm down to talk about Berettas, or hell, anything, whenever you like. You're going to love the Beretta, and it'll take the beating happily. By the way, Trijicon recently released the HD night sights for the 92A1, so I'll let you know if those work well on it. Hopefully, I'll order soon. Let me know what you think of the Beretta when it turns up.
Nice! My father has a side by side Beretta shot gun. Beautiful guns man. I can tell your passion for the Beretta is for good reason. I've been reading up on them, and yeah I was going to ask you what the difference was between the 92A1 and the M9A1 so thanks for letting me know. Went to the gun store a couple days ago and they didn't have one so i'm going to just order one. Thanks for all the info man, much appreciated. Like you, I put a beating on my guns and I want to see what this pistol is made of. I recently bought a CZ P01 Omega and i'm going to buy the 92A1 and I have close to a thousand rounds ready for the range when I get em. Just for a good start
I'm glad you're liking the HK -- that's a damn fine gun. Oh, you'll just have to buy a 92A1, there's just no way around it. Speaking of Beretta and shotguns, I've been saving my pennies for a really nice Beretta over/under for months now. Those fucking things are works of art. Your dad sounds like he's got great taste! As for the 92A1, there's only this one model, luckily, in 9mm. The 96A1 is a .40, but other than that, there aren't any others that are too similar. You definitely want the 92A1 over the M9A1 though, so that you can change the front sight, and there are some other differences as well. In some places these are fairly common, but they aren't nearly as easy to find as some of the other stuff that you and I like. No shit, the 92A1 is the most reliable gun I've ever owned, to the point that I trust it completely. I've been very, very mean to that gun. Great to hear from you, and I hope you snag one of these soon. IIf you need any Beretta info, let me know. I've spent a lot of time working on these, customizing my own Berettas, and I'm happy to share.
own the cz, shot a 92 sf the other day. I must say the 92 was a tack driver as well. one more on my radar
+Richard Beare All great points. Though I prefer the Beretta, I happily shoot either gun. Both are exceptional firearms.
While the Beretta is a fine pistol the CZ just fits me better the Beretta is just has to large a grip to be comfortable in my hand. The CZ on the other hand fits better than any other pistol I own and I like the trigger on the CZ better. but that is just personal opinion.
That's awesome! I'm really glad you enjoyed the Beretta. I probably get annoying, going on and on about them all the time, but they are just so damn great. Both the SP-01 and the Beretta are such great guns, it's rather crazy how cheap both are. As always, I appreciate you watching, and thanks for taking the time to comment.PS If you end up getting one, let me know how you like your Beretta long-term!
Beretta 92, the reason I can't own anything else in 9mm or keep 9mm ammo in general.
Haha! Man, do I ever relate to this comment. They ruin shooting forever, those Berettas. The other day I was thinking, "I'd like to buy a new gun. There are several other slightly different 92s to buy."
Beretta > CZ > Most other pistols > Hi Point > Glock
I keep trying to mash my Berettas together to get them to breed, but they won't do it.
CZ all the way!! But my opinion is a little biased haha.Good review!
thegunpenguin thanks man!!
+J Sicario YouTube decided to delete my initial comment, but yes, you're quite right, my biased, subjective comparison was biased. If I had to wager, I would bet that I did that intentionally.
+MrBigKid I keep forgetting to tell you, your brisket smoking video is great.
All of his was biased towards Beretta, so no harm.
Haha! You've got great taste. A shadow 2, with the blue grips, is in my future. If I could go back in time, I would've done what you did, and buy the Shadow from the start. I knew I wanted that one, but I didn't listen to my gut, and reason overtook me. Not that you need the opinion of some random dumbdumb on YouTube, but you made a stellar choice, in my mind.
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